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Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 10:53
lostsoul

Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 10:55
lostsoul

真理要牢牢掌握在 Elon Musk 手中,其它的 AI 大概也差不多,贯彻开发团队的思路。


Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 10:56
枫林晓1

exactly true

看usmit就看得出来。


Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 10:57
枫林晓1

exactly true

看usmit就看得出来。

你看右派有追打拜登,不停地咒骂拜登的吗?或者现任民主党魁首?


Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 11:00
lostsoul
枫林晓1 写了: 18 6月 2025, 10:56

exactly true

看usmit就看得出来。

问了一下 Grok 的看法:

Grok: The concern about Elon Musk influencing Grok's output towards his political views has been raised, particularly given instances where Grok's responses have aligned with Musk's controversial stances, such as on "white genocide" in South Africa.

Some suggest this could reflect either intentional bias in training or unintentional skew in data, fueling debates about AI neutrality.

However, Grok has also contradicted Musk's views at times, indicating an effort to maintain some independence.

With ongoing adjustments being made, as noted by Musk, the situation remains fluid and inconclusive, warranting continued scrutiny of AI development processes.


Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 11:03
枫林晓1
lostsoul 写了: 18 6月 2025, 11:00
枫林晓1 写了: 18 6月 2025, 10:56

exactly true

看usmit就看得出来。

问了一下 Grok 的看法:

Grok: The concern about Elon Musk influencing Grok's output towards his political views has been raised, particularly given instances where Grok's responses have aligned with Musk's controversial stances, such as on "white genocide" in South Africa.

Some suggest this could reflect either intentional bias in training or unintentional skew in data, fueling debates about AI neutrality.

However, Grok has also contradicted Musk's views at times, indicating an effort to maintain some independence.

With ongoing adjustments being made, as noted by Musk, the situation remains fluid and inconclusive, warranting continued scrutiny of AI development processes.

你得问 usmit 谁是左派,谁是右派,谁是极端,谁是温和政治倾向。整个论坛左派和右派的政治性咒骂各占多少。哪一派更尊重现实。。。。


Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 11:08
lostsoul
枫林晓1 写了: 18 6月 2025, 11:03
lostsoul 写了: 18 6月 2025, 11:00

问了一下 Grok 的看法:

你得问 usmit 谁是左派,谁是右派,谁是极端,谁是温和政治倾向。整个论坛左派和右派的政治性咒骂各占多少。哪一派更尊重现实。。。。

一楼 Grok 的回答没有显示完全,这里 copy 一下:

Since 2016, data suggests right-wing political violence has been more frequent and deadly, with incidents like the January 6 Capitol riot and mass shootings (e.g., El Paso 2019) causing significant fatalities.

Left-wing violence, while rising, especially during 2020 protests, is less lethal, often targeting property.

Surveys show both sides increasingly justify violence, reflecting deep polarization. Right-wing attacks account for most deadly incidents, per reports like Reuters and GAO.

However, biases in reporting may skew perceptions. Both sides contribute to a growing cycle of unrest, and precise attribution remains contentious due to varying definitions of violence.

极左暴力破坏财物,极右暴力取人性命。不知道这个是不是客观?


Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 11:12
枫林晓1

我也有这个印象。但是印象是媒体灌输的。比如黑名贵。到底抢劫过程中出的人命。算作街头犯罪,还是左翼犯罪?

需要详实的数据和完全中立的统计官。

一旦涉及数据。就是战场。我现在对尖锐政治问题的统计数据也是不敢尽信啊。


Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 11:26
dragonfly

也可以理解成:
右派暴力主要针对政客,是单纯政治暴力
左派暴力既针对政客(暗杀总统),又针对平民,是政治经济文化宗教多重暴力。
我的理解对不对?

lostsoul 写了: 18 6月 2025, 11:08
枫林晓1 写了: 18 6月 2025, 11:03

你得问 usmit 谁是左派,谁是右派,谁是极端,谁是温和政治倾向。整个论坛左派和右派的政治性咒骂各占多少。哪一派更尊重现实。。。。

一楼 Grok 的回答没有显示完全,这里 copy 一下:

Since 2016, data suggests right-wing political violence has been more frequent and deadly, with incidents like the January 6 Capitol riot and mass shootings (e.g., El Paso 2019) causing significant fatalities.

Left-wing violence, while rising, especially during 2020 protests, is less lethal, often targeting property.

Surveys show both sides increasingly justify violence, reflecting deep polarization. Right-wing attacks account for most deadly incidents, per reports like Reuters and GAO.

However, biases in reporting may skew perceptions. Both sides contribute to a growing cycle of unrest, and precise attribution remains contentious due to varying definitions of violence.

极左暴力破坏财物,极右暴力取人性命。不知道这个是不是客观?


Re: Grok 说极右更暴力,Elon Musk 非常生气 “Major fail”

发表于 : 18 6月 2025, 11:46
lostsoul

你说的有道理,我也觉得极左在文化上的影响更大一些。

我现在用 Grok 比较多,有点担心 Musk 会怎么调整。

也许是杞人忧天,反正先把流量蹭了。

dragonfly 写了: 18 6月 2025, 11:26

也可以理解成:
右派暴力主要针对政客,是单纯政治暴力
左派暴力既针对政客(暗杀总统),又针对平民,是政治经济文化宗教多重暴力。
我的理解对不对?

lostsoul 写了: 18 6月 2025, 11:08

一楼 Grok 的回答没有显示完全,这里 copy 一下:

Since 2016, data suggests right-wing political violence has been more frequent and deadly, with incidents like the January 6 Capitol riot and mass shootings (e.g., El Paso 2019) causing significant fatalities.

Left-wing violence, while rising, especially during 2020 protests, is less lethal, often targeting property.

Surveys show both sides increasingly justify violence, reflecting deep polarization. Right-wing attacks account for most deadly incidents, per reports like Reuters and GAO.

However, biases in reporting may skew perceptions. Both sides contribute to a growing cycle of unrest, and precise attribution remains contentious due to varying definitions of violence.

极左暴力破坏财物,极右暴力取人性命。不知道这个是不是客观?