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电车肯定不能买。电池技术不换代,咱坚决不做北方小白。

你们南方的其实OK了。

 

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枫林晓1 写了: 昨天, 19:39

电车肯定不能买。电池技术不换代,咱坚决不做北方小白。

你们南方的其实OK了。

我跟你讲过电车在太阳底下晒,是可能自燃的。特斯拉是有冷却系统的,就算你不在车里,车自己也要给电池降温。也挺麻烦的

 

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脑癌。

 

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比亚迪在技术上不比特斯拉差

你们神话了马斯克、他也就靠华人干活,马斯克在上海建厂后才活过来,比亚迪直接雇佣几十万华人

 

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When analyzing global data outside of China, English-language research and institutional reports confirm the initial assessment: EV battery fires are statistically much rarer than internal combustion engine (ICE) fires, but their severity and the "thermal runaway" risk in extreme heat remain real technical concerns. [1, 2]

However, Western data shows that summer heat itself acts primarily as an accelerating stress factor rather than a standalone cause for sudden explosion. [3, 4]

1. Fire Probability: The Global Statistical Reality

English-language data consistently refutes the myth that EVs catch fire more often than gas cars. [1, 5]

  • The MSB (Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency) Data: In Sweden (one of the world's most robust tracking databases), data shows only 23 fires occurred among 611,000 electric cars—an incident rate of just 0.004%, compared to 0.08% for ICE vehicles. This indicates gas cars are statistically up to 20 times more likely to catch fire. [1, 6]
  • EV FireSafe Data: Backed by the Australian Department of Defence, EV FireSafe global tracking indicates that verified EV battery fires remain extremely rare relative to the total global fleet. [7, 8]
  • Data Caveat: The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) notes that historical comparative data relies heavily on combined insurance models rather than pure fire department metrics. True EV tracking is still evolving under newer systems like NERIS (National Emergency Reporting Information System) to isolate battery-specific incidents. [9]

2. How Summer Heat Impacts the Battery (The Western View)

International automotive organizations like AAA and battery data firms like Recurrent state that ambient summer heat alone rarely causes spontaneous EV fires. Instead, heat behaves as a catalyst for hidden vulnerabilities: [3, 4, 10]

  • The Threat of Thermal Runaway: Battery fire risk peaks if a cell hits roughly 60°C to 80°C internally, which can trigger an uncontrollable domino effect called thermal runaway. [2, 11]
  • The "Heat + Stress" Combination: Spontaneous summer ignition typically requires a pre-existing trigger. Extreme summer heat (which degrades cooling systems) combined with high-load DC fast charging or prior structural/puncture damage creates the perfect storm for a localized short circuit. [3, 7]
  • Toxic Fumes vs. Fire Spread: Confirming the high fatality risk mentioned previously, the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) emphasizes that lithium-ion battery fires release highly toxic gases (like hydrogen fluoride) and are prone to re-ignition hours or days after the initial fire is put out due to "stranded energy". [2, 12]

3. Does it Obstacle Purchases Internationally?

In Western markets (North America and Europe), safety fears do cross consumers' minds, but they are not the primary barrier to purchasing an EV. [13]

  • The Real Obstacles: According to global automotive market reviews, charging infrastructure gaps, higher upfront purchase costs, and cold-weather range anxiety rank far higher as purchase barriers than summer fire anxiety.
  • Western Safety Mitigation: Cars sold in these regions must adhere to rigorous international crash and electrical standards, such as ISO 6469, which mandates isolated battery compartments and automatic high-voltage disconnects during a crash or thermal spike. [13]

4. Safety Tips from Global Auto Associations

To prevent battery stress during intense summer heatwaves, safety councils suggest Certified Auto Repair guidelines:

  • Limit Fast Charging in Peak Heat: Avoid repetitive Level 3 DC fast charging during the hottest midday hours, as fast charging generates intense internal heat.
  • Park Strategically: Park in the shade or parking garages rather than on hot, unshaded asphalt to ease the load on the vehicle's passive cooling loop.
  • Keep Software Updated: Ensure the vehicle's Battery Management System (BMS) has the latest firmware updates, which optimize thermal throttling during heatwaves. [14, 15]

Would you like me to look into the specific safety ratings or thermal management systems of a particular Western EV brand (like Tesla, Hyundai, or Volkswagen) you might be considering?

[1] https://ev-lectron.com
[2] https://www.nfpa.org
[3] https://firerover.com
[4] https://www.greencarreports.com
[5] https://interestingengineering.com
[6] https://www.reddit.com
[7] https://www.blazestack.com
[8] https://www.evfiresafe.com
[9] https://www.youtube.com
[10] https://www.wkyc.com
[11] https://www.hpacademy.com
[12] https://firerover.com
[13] https://caaneo.ca
[14] https://certifieautoservice.ca
[15] https://www.northbridgeinsurance.ca

 

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esso就是一老古董

 

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Lilyamao 写了: 昨天, 20:09

比亚迪在技术上不比特斯拉差

你们神话了马斯克、他也就靠华人干活,马斯克在上海建厂后才活过来,比亚迪直接雇佣几十万华人

我是一直在批评特斯拉的。刀片公认的比三元更安全。

 

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Lilyamao 写了: 昨天, 20:09

比亚迪在技术上不比特斯拉差

你们神话了马斯克、他也就靠华人干活,马斯克在上海建厂后才活过来,比亚迪直接雇佣几十万华人

我是一直在批评特斯拉的。刀片公认的比三元更安全。加上特斯拉拒绝使用雷达。缺少安全冗余。

 

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枫林晓1 写了: 昨天, 20:20
Lilyamao 写了: 昨天, 20:09

比亚迪在技术上不比特斯拉差

你们神话了马斯克、他也就靠华人干活,马斯克在上海建厂后才活过来,比亚迪直接雇佣几十万华人

我是一直在批评特斯拉的。刀片公认的比三元更安全。加上特斯拉拒绝使用雷达。缺少安全冗余。

XX,我再教你一遍,刀片是电池形状,三元是阳极材料。你说的话等于是老黑比女人安全,你这个合理吗

 

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二吗不是。MIT的水平出来了

 

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