2021年9月28号在全球代码大会上 (CodeCon )，美国记者卡拉•斯威舍 (Kara Anne Swisher) 采访了马一龙。
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卡拉•斯威舍 (6:50)：我想换个话题……不过我还想稍微谈一下中国。你在那边经营、销售。你怎么看他们对科技企业家、科技巨头的做法？
马一龙 (7:12)：嗯，呃，(迟疑了5秒钟)马云去哪里了？
卡拉•斯威舍：你知道吗？
马一龙：我不知道耶......
卡拉•斯威舍：我猜你有办法查出来吧。
不知为啥，这个片段让我笑了好久。
英文对话：
Kara Swisher: So I want to move on to … I want to stick with China for a second. You’re operating there, selling there. What do you make of what they’re doing to the tech entrepreneurs there, the tech moguls?
Elon Musk: (7:12) Well, where’s Jack Ma?
Kara Swisher: Do you know?
Elon Musk: I don’t know...
Kara Swisher: You have the means to find out, I guess.
Elon Musk: Maybe. I don’t know. I think there are some changes afoot in China. I think part of this may be actually COVID-related in the sense that it’s been quite difficult to have in-person meetings in China and China really runs… The whole system is set up to run on the basis of in-person meetings. And the absence of these meetings for the past 18 months, I think, has probably lead to things being worse than they would be if there were more in-person meetings. So I think as COVID lifts and the in-person meetings return, probably there will be an increase in the sort of trust level, and things will probably start heading in a more positive direction.
Kara Swisher: Trust level between tech and the government?
Elon Musk: Yeah, both internally within China and with respect to people from the US and other countries going and visiting and meeting with officials in the Chinese government, China is very much set up to work with the in-person meetings. And so, COVID, I think, it’s impeded that. So things will improve most likely, as the in-person meetings should resume.
Kara Swisher: So they did these antitrust actions because they couldn’t say hello.
Elon Musk: Not all of it can be ascribed to that, but some of it can be. Yeah, we’ll see. I suspect things will improve next year because of just better, more interaction.
Kara Swisher: Are you nervous about what you’re doing there. It’s a big market for you. You operate there.
Elon Musk: Yeah, we’ve got a big factory in Shanghai, which is doing very well. The Tesla China team is doing great work. And we do well what is selling in the Chinese market as well as producing cars for China and for export to Europe. So overall, things are going pretty well, frankly.
